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		<title>By: Justine Pattantyus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine Pattantyus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of interesting comments here. It&#039;s sad to think a majority of the population has a &quot;throwaway&quot; mentality about products and where money is spent. The quality of consumer good has dropped drastically because it has been more important to have more than to have things that will last. In my opinion, this is also an important aspect of &quot;green,&quot; because if you only need to buy something every couple of years, then you are purchasing a lot less in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of interesting comments here. It&#8217;s sad to think a majority of the population has a &#8220;throwaway&#8221; mentality about products and where money is spent. The quality of consumer good has dropped drastically because it has been more important to have more than to have things that will last. In my opinion, this is also an important aspect of &#8220;green,&#8221; because if you only need to buy something every couple of years, then you are purchasing a lot less in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: mayalibre</title>
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		<dc:creator>mayalibre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth, you say:

&quot;...for those consumers who are approaching their spending more carefully, thoughtfully, consciously - should it take a financial crisis to prompt the change?&quot;

I believe the elephant in the living room, which we rarely discuss, is the embedded, intrinsic schizophrenia of consumer capitalism.  We get two conflicting messages -- buy a lot, we need the money and you need the products -vs- buy, but judiciously, not too much, and not unnecessarily.

Urging addicts to reduce their drug use without *also* curbing the exploitative and manipulative activities of pushers won&#039;t produce very good results.  When a pusher is stalking a client, a disciplined, responsible and boundaried one won&#039;t provide as much profit as a vulnerable or needy one.  All the better if you can &quot;hook&quot; a user in and get them to provide a regular cash flow.

But the dual messages of spend/don&#039;t spend, buy/don&#039;t buy are pure crazymaking and don&#039;t actually empower anyone.  My personal belief is that companies, especially in the US, need to see the bottom line as only one element in a whole palette of business goals, and not even the primary one.  Have you ever stopped to wonder why businesses in Europe aren&#039;t considered mature or stable unless they&#039;ve been around for 300 years?  Whereas here we go for the instant fix, and would generally consider stable business performance over many years without a significant increase to be a &quot;failure.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth, you say:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;for those consumers who are approaching their spending more carefully, thoughtfully, consciously &#8211; should it take a financial crisis to prompt the change?&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe the elephant in the living room, which we rarely discuss, is the embedded, intrinsic schizophrenia of consumer capitalism.  We get two conflicting messages &#8212; buy a lot, we need the money and you need the products -vs- buy, but judiciously, not too much, and not unnecessarily.</p>
<p>Urging addicts to reduce their drug use without *also* curbing the exploitative and manipulative activities of pushers won&#8217;t produce very good results.  When a pusher is stalking a client, a disciplined, responsible and boundaried one won&#8217;t provide as much profit as a vulnerable or needy one.  All the better if you can &#8220;hook&#8221; a user in and get them to provide a regular cash flow.</p>
<p>But the dual messages of spend/don&#8217;t spend, buy/don&#8217;t buy are pure crazymaking and don&#8217;t actually empower anyone.  My personal belief is that companies, especially in the US, need to see the bottom line as only one element in a whole palette of business goals, and not even the primary one.  Have you ever stopped to wonder why businesses in Europe aren&#8217;t considered mature or stable unless they&#8217;ve been around for 300 years?  Whereas here we go for the instant fix, and would generally consider stable business performance over many years without a significant increase to be a &#8220;failure.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/02/10/sustainable-consumption-in-times-like-these/comment-page-1/#comment-108260</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I wholeheartedly endorse what Beth has so eloquently discussed, another critical point needs to be made.  Despite these &#039;lean&#039; economic times on both sides of the cash register, its critical that manufacturing companies and service providers across all sectors continually seek &quot;lean&quot; and efficient methods to manufacture their goods and provide services.  Process efficiencies with an eye toward sustainable resource conservation and product life cycle management helps companies cut waste and remain comnpetitive.  So don&#039;t accept the excuse that &quot;we are watching our spending&quot; without asking how effectively organizations are focusing on life cycle costs and resource optimization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I wholeheartedly endorse what Beth has so eloquently discussed, another critical point needs to be made.  Despite these &#8216;lean&#8217; economic times on both sides of the cash register, its critical that manufacturing companies and service providers across all sectors continually seek &#8220;lean&#8221; and efficient methods to manufacture their goods and provide services.  Process efficiencies with an eye toward sustainable resource conservation and product life cycle management helps companies cut waste and remain comnpetitive.  So don&#8217;t accept the excuse that &#8220;we are watching our spending&#8221; without asking how effectively organizations are focusing on life cycle costs and resource optimization.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn McMaster</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/02/10/sustainable-consumption-in-times-like-these/comment-page-1/#comment-108094</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn McMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth Holzman is absolutely right in her assertion that companies need to provide better information about the green attributes of their products. It will not only help consumers be more responsible, it will also help companies build their brand. The most sustainable brands are built on trust, and that requires credible communications. You can be the greenest company possible, but if no one believes you, you won&#039;t go the distance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth Holzman is absolutely right in her assertion that companies need to provide better information about the green attributes of their products. It will not only help consumers be more responsible, it will also help companies build their brand. The most sustainable brands are built on trust, and that requires credible communications. You can be the greenest company possible, but if no one believes you, you won&#8217;t go the distance.</p>
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