Comments on: Florida City to be Powered by the Sun http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/04/13/florida-city-to-be-powered-by-the-sun/ Environmental Leader Fri, 25 May 2012 22:05:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Uncle B http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/04/13/florida-city-to-be-powered-by-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-175265 Uncle B Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:02:51 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=13286#comment-175265 Floridan Solar Power - a day-time thing! Next: bio-gas feedlot manure, and human sewage, offal and waste, to make consumer gas and clean lakes and cleaner seashores, then take the storable compressible bio-gas and run the nigh time generators with it! Fact of life, American humanure richer than Asian pig-Shiite due to better diets, produces more usable gas! A win -win! Eat all you want, bio-gas your poop and light up the night! The bio-gas works sludge byproduct makes a top-soil rejuvenating fertilizer too! Floridan Solar Power – a day-time thing! Next: bio-gas feedlot manure, and human sewage, offal and waste, to make consumer gas and clean lakes and cleaner seashores, then take the storable compressible bio-gas and run the nigh time generators with it! Fact of life, American humanure richer than Asian pig-Shiite due to better diets, produces more usable gas! A win -win! Eat all you want, bio-gas your poop and light up the night! The bio-gas works sludge byproduct makes a top-soil rejuvenating fertilizer too!

]]> By: Bob http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/04/13/florida-city-to-be-powered-by-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-118565 Bob Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:27:54 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=13286#comment-118565 Its gonna be tough to run all those air conditioners, lights, and TVs at night when the sun don't shine....oh, they'll be backed up by the fossil fuel driven grid. So they spend $300M to get 75MW (peak). Assume the sun shines 12 hours per day but from dawn to dusk you average 50% of peak intensity, you may get 164M kwh/yr. Assume the plant runs unattended but you have to borrow the money at 10% to build it, it will cost you $30M/yr in interest or 18 cents / kwh. A typical air conditioned FL home might go through 2000 kwh per month so paying the interest on the loan to build the plant will cost $4400/yr per home. How they come up with < $4/yr is a mystery to me unless the rest of it subsidize it through tax credits, low interest subsidized loans, etc. Oh, and don't forget, keep the baseload plants handy for cloudy days and nighttime. Its gonna be tough to run all those air conditioners, lights, and TVs at night when the sun don’t shine….oh, they’ll be backed up by the fossil fuel driven grid.

So they spend $300M to get 75MW (peak). Assume the sun shines 12 hours per day but from dawn to dusk you average 50% of peak intensity, you may get 164M kwh/yr. Assume the plant runs unattended but you have to borrow the money at 10% to build it, it will cost you $30M/yr in interest or 18 cents / kwh. A typical air conditioned FL home might go through 2000 kwh per month so paying the interest on the loan to build the plant will cost $4400/yr per home. How they come up with < $4/yr is a mystery to me unless the rest of it subsidize it through tax credits, low interest subsidized loans, etc. Oh, and don’t forget, keep the baseload plants handy for cloudy days and nighttime.

]]> By: Wetlandman http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/04/13/florida-city-to-be-powered-by-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-118530 Wetlandman Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:06:26 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=13286#comment-118530 It is irresponsible to run this article without discussing the environmental implications of such a vast development in such a remote and environmentally sensitive area. The current real estate market in Southwest Florida does not justify such an environmental impact. It is irresponsible to run this article without discussing the environmental implications of such a vast development in such a remote and environmentally sensitive area. The current real estate market in Southwest Florida does not justify such an environmental impact.

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