Comments on: Apple Drops Bombshell, Immediately Withdraws from U.S. Chamber http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/10/05/apple-drops-bombshell-immediately-withdraws-from-u-s-chamber/ Environmental Leader Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:25:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jelle http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/10/05/apple-drops-bombshell-immediately-withdraws-from-u-s-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-153015 Jelle Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:26:43 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=23115#comment-153015 "Apple ranked dead last on Greenpeace’s ranking of green electronics manufacturers." This is old information. Check: How the companies line up: 12th edition http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/how-the-companies-line-12 “Apple ranked dead last on Greenpeace’s ranking of green electronics manufacturers.” This is old information. Check: How the companies line up: 12th edition
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/how-the-companies-line-12

]]> By: Bob Ellington http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/10/05/apple-drops-bombshell-immediately-withdraws-from-u-s-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-152942 Bob Ellington Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:55:28 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=23115#comment-152942 After all the old white men running the USA CoC retire to the great chamber in the sky, maybe we will start seeing reasonable responses to the significant issues facing this country. Their opposition to long standing policies like a minimum wage demonstrate their committment to maximizing profits at the expense of our health and welfare. After all the old white men running the USA CoC retire to the great chamber in the sky, maybe we will start seeing reasonable responses to the significant issues facing this country. Their opposition to long standing policies like a minimum wage demonstrate their committment to maximizing profits at the expense of our health and welfare.

]]> By: Iain http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/10/05/apple-drops-bombshell-immediately-withdraws-from-u-s-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-152809 Iain Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:19:54 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=23115#comment-152809 Apple is trying it seems...they are releasing their numbers, they are leaving an organization that spoke their former language..."Crisis, what crisis". It seems that the Chamber is one of the few remaining ivory tower icons. Instead of critisizing and looking for motive, we should try to accept the effort and expect the motive. Big business, corporate world needs to work very hard to regain any trust but I believe we should cautiously applaud their efforts. Apple is trying it seems…they are releasing their numbers, they are leaving an organization that spoke their former language…”Crisis, what crisis”. It seems that the Chamber is one of the few remaining ivory tower icons.
Instead of critisizing and looking for motive, we should try to accept the effort and expect the motive. Big business, corporate world needs to work very hard to regain any trust but I believe we should cautiously applaud their efforts.

]]> By: Taylen http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/10/05/apple-drops-bombshell-immediately-withdraws-from-u-s-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-152776 Taylen Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:43:53 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=23115#comment-152776 Good for them! I mean, the other companies have shown their displeasure and have vowed not to renew, but this is huge! Go Apple! Good for them! I mean, the other companies have shown their displeasure and have vowed not to renew, but this is huge! Go Apple!

]]> By: mark http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/10/05/apple-drops-bombshell-immediately-withdraws-from-u-s-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-152742 mark Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:14:00 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=23115#comment-152742 very perceptive Matt...for if Apple's narcisstic move were truly born of their "green" heart, they would have been openly sharing emissions data for a long time and been leading the charge for others to do so...they sense a marketing opportunity, as does Nike. fyi John, the loss of the US manufacturing sector was overwhelmingly driven by the lower cost of labor in other countries, and even they have lost to each other in a steady succession of new "low" cost labor markets...you can bash unions for that if you want, but it really doesn't matter, it would have happened regardless - and is continuing to happen to the former "winners"...just ask Mexico...who lost to India/China...who have started losing to former eastern block nations...and will eventually whine about all of the developing South American economies with lower cost labor than their own. No "association" forced GM to make bad cars. They did that all on their own...yet I still own two of them...go figure... very perceptive Matt…for if Apple’s narcisstic move were truly born of their “green” heart, they would have been openly sharing emissions data for a long time and been leading the charge for others to do so…they sense a marketing opportunity, as does Nike.

fyi John, the loss of the US manufacturing sector was overwhelmingly driven by the lower cost of labor in other countries, and even they have lost to each other in a steady succession of new “low” cost labor markets…you can bash unions for that if you want, but it really doesn’t matter, it would have happened regardless – and is continuing to happen to the former “winners”…just ask Mexico…who lost to India/China…who have started losing to former eastern block nations…and will eventually whine about all of the developing South American economies with lower cost labor than their own.

No “association” forced GM to make bad cars. They did that all on their own…yet I still own two of them…go figure…

]]> By: mark http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/10/05/apple-drops-bombshell-immediately-withdraws-from-u-s-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-152697 mark Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:48:44 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=23115#comment-152697 damn the science...political correctness is all that matters...they don't care if they're respected...they want to be "liked"...so appropriate for the Nike's and Apple's of the world...good riddance...may we now have an adult debate please...based upon facts, not emotionally charged rhetoric... damn the science…political correctness is all that matters…they don’t care if they’re respected…they want to be “liked”…so appropriate for the Nike’s and Apple’s of the world…good riddance…may we now have an adult debate please…based upon facts, not emotionally charged rhetoric…

]]> By: John Atkins http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/10/05/apple-drops-bombshell-immediately-withdraws-from-u-s-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-152695 John Atkins Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:36:34 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=23115#comment-152695 Good for Apple! Why are others hesitating? Don't they think the chamber would accept their dues in the future, after it changes its message? Now, how about the Nat'l Assn of Manufacturers, the other partner in ridiculous, who in the 1980s rejected the quality movement and triggered the loss of the US manufacturing sector, a loss from which the US has still has not recovered? Good for Apple! Why are others hesitating? Don’t they think the chamber would accept their dues in the future, after it changes its message? Now, how about the Nat’l Assn of Manufacturers, the other partner in ridiculous, who in the 1980s rejected the quality movement and triggered the loss of the US manufacturing sector, a loss from which the US has still has not recovered?

]]> By: Matt Courtland of A Sustainable Life http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/10/05/apple-drops-bombshell-immediately-withdraws-from-u-s-chamber/comment-page-1/#comment-152689 Matt Courtland of A Sustainable Life Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:50:26 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=23115#comment-152689 I am happy that a big name player like Apple is showing the US Chamber their views on climate change are not in line with most of their members' thoughts on the subject; however, I believe Apple's bold move was born from its marketing department just as much as its sustainability interests. I am happy that a big name player like Apple is showing the US Chamber their views on climate change are not in line with most of their members’ thoughts on the subject; however, I believe Apple’s bold move was born from its marketing department just as much as its sustainability interests.

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