Comments on: Partisan Bickering Puts Climate Bill in Jeopardy http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/11/03/partisan-bickering-puts-climate-bill-in-jeopardy/ Environmental Leader Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:25:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Custom Organic Shirts http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/11/03/partisan-bickering-puts-climate-bill-in-jeopardy/comment-page-1/#comment-159871 Custom Organic Shirts Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:55:33 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=26648#comment-159871 "In an attempt to address Republican concerns, Boxer told reporters that the EPA could come before the committee to answer technical questions about the bill, and she would extend a deadline for Republicans to notify her of amendments to the bill, reports Reuters." The EPA completed its analysis already! Republicans just want to scare and delay. The ranking Republican on the EPW committee is an open climate change denier, which is frankly a ridiculous position to hold at this point and indicitive of a lack of vision and even a lack of ability to come to terms with present day reality. As for Robert Moen's comment, we always ask for "leadership" from our politicians. That means educating the American public on why this issue is critical and *needs* to be addressed. It does NOT mean treating legislation as a popularity contest. So, Robert, I would ask you this: do you want leadership from our government, or are you just looking for a popularity contest? By the way, a "Climate Truth Comission" is an incredible waste of time. The EPA has conducted its studies, and the academic instutions in the US (and globally) have produced *numerous* studies indicating that human-made climate change is real, it is happening, and the consequences of leaving it unchecked are very bad. The scientific consensus on the reality of human-made climate change is overwhelming. Would you like to hold a "Truth Comission" on the existence of gravity? That would be about equally productive. Of course Robert, you are right about one thing: the UN climate change predictions haven't been accurate. Scientists are now realizing that the UN's previous predictions actually UNDERESTIMATED the rate of existing and future consequences to climate change. Want more information about the consequences of climate change that we have *already* locked ourselves into? See this summary: http://www.sayitgreen.com/2009/09/our-plea-to-you.html Andy “In an attempt to address Republican concerns, Boxer told reporters that the EPA could come before the committee to answer technical questions about the bill, and she would extend a deadline for Republicans to notify her of amendments to the bill, reports Reuters.”

The EPA completed its analysis already! Republicans just want to scare and delay. The ranking Republican on the EPW committee is an open climate change denier, which is frankly a ridiculous position to hold at this point and indicitive of a lack of vision and even a lack of ability to come to terms with present day reality.

As for Robert Moen’s comment, we always ask for “leadership” from our politicians. That means educating the American public on why this issue is critical and *needs* to be addressed. It does NOT mean treating legislation as a popularity contest. So, Robert, I would ask you this: do you want leadership from our government, or are you just looking for a popularity contest?

By the way, a “Climate Truth Comission” is an incredible waste of time. The EPA has conducted its studies, and the academic instutions in the US (and globally) have produced *numerous* studies indicating that human-made climate change is real, it is happening, and the consequences of leaving it unchecked are very bad. The scientific consensus on the reality of human-made climate change is overwhelming. Would you like to hold a “Truth Comission” on the existence of gravity? That would be about equally productive.

Of course Robert, you are right about one thing: the UN climate change predictions haven’t been accurate. Scientists are now realizing that the UN’s previous predictions actually UNDERESTIMATED the rate of existing and future consequences to climate change.

Want more information about the consequences of climate change that we have *already* locked ourselves into? See this summary: http://www.sayitgreen.com/2009/09/our-plea-to-you.html

Andy

]]> By: Rmoen http://www.environmentalleader.com/2009/11/03/partisan-bickering-puts-climate-bill-in-jeopardy/comment-page-1/#comment-159844 Rmoen Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:15:09 +0000 http://www.environmentalleader.com/?p=26648#comment-159844 From my vantage point, support for cap-and-trade has evaporated. Daily I read editorials, comments and letters-to-the-editor from all over the nation. When the House passed the cap-and-trade bill it was maybe 2-to-1 against cap-and-trade, opinion now is off the charts against it. This agrees with what I've read in the polls: 'attempting' to slow climate change is a low priority among Americans. Frankly, I don't see Americans supporting cap-and-trade or any CO2 regulation until we have our own 'Climate Truth Commission.' ...and no longer rely upon the climate opinions of the United Nations. The UN is a biased political organization whose climate forecasts haven't proven prescient. The United States needs our own objective, transparent climate commission to think-through global warming. -- Robert Moen, www.energyplanUSA From my vantage point, support for cap-and-trade has evaporated. Daily I read editorials, comments and letters-to-the-editor from all over the nation. When the House passed the cap-and-trade bill it was maybe 2-to-1 against cap-and-trade, opinion now is off the charts against it. This agrees with what I’ve read in the polls: ‘attempting’ to slow climate change is a low priority among Americans.

Frankly, I don’t see Americans supporting cap-and-trade or any CO2 regulation until we have our own ‘Climate Truth Commission.’ …and no longer rely upon the climate opinions of the United Nations. The UN is a biased political organization whose climate forecasts haven’t proven prescient. The United States needs our own objective, transparent climate commission to think-through global warming.

– Robert Moen, http://www.energyplanUSA

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